Bulova 1973 International

Submitted by theoctavedoctor on August 21, 2021 - 7:08am
Manufacture Year
1973
Movement Model
11AOACB
Movement Jewels
23
Case Serial No.
3-585956
Case shape
Round
Case color
White
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

I'm not an expert, this was my grandma's watch. According to the date chart it was bought in 1973 and it has a french day dial (SAM stands for Samedi = Saturday). Pretty weird, because I'm living in Italy and the watch has been bought here.

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Geoff Baker
Posted August 21, 2021 - 9:57pm

We've previously ID'd this as a 1973 Bulova Senator - just like this one

mybulova_admin
Posted August 21, 2021 - 10:54pm

This one has me a little stumped.

The watch Geoff referenced is certainly the same watch, however looking at that ID I'm not sure where the Senator ID came from. It could be correct.

A number of 1973/74 Lines books show the watches in the 'Senator' series as all having a gold bezel ring surrounding the crystal.

The 11635-0W looks like an exact match visually, but is listed as having a 17 jewelled movement. For reference the yellow gold version is 12621-9Y

The Senator "F" which I think may have been the basis of Geoffs ID, does have a 23 jewelled movement, but has the addition of that gold bezel ring as well as different hour markers. Also I think the case is slightly different.

Maybe someone else can find a better match or make sense of this.

model 11635-0W vs Bulova Senator watch

I'm at Unknown for now.

Geoff Baker
Posted August 22, 2021 - 9:54pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Well, if I'd have look deeper into the watch I matched to this one I'd have seen there really isn't a basis to call either Senator is there?

This one is 1973 Bulova Unknown to me now.

JimDon5822
Posted August 21, 2021 - 11:20pm

I could not find a match.   Unknown for me.  

Andersok
Posted August 22, 2021 - 7:45am

Also unable to match this one with 23 jewels, so Unknown for now.

I would think it was possible to change day wheels to different languages without too much trouble.

theoctavedoctor
Posted August 22, 2021 - 7:55am

I'm a professional bike mechanic, so this is not my world at all. But I can tell, even if back in the days most of bike brands had specific models on their catalogues, there were many custom made frames and bike parts based on the original ones upon customer request.

So, could this be a Senator custom version with the 23 jewels movement from the Senator F and a french day/date dial? Was it even possible to have a custom watch at that time?

Geoff Baker
Posted August 22, 2021 - 9:56pm

In reply to by theoctavedoctor

Good question. Bulova made a good business doing 'special order' watches but limited them to standard models, identifiable in their line books with customer logos on the dials.

mybulova_admin
Posted August 23, 2021 - 12:33am

There are two possibilities as I see it.

  1. we have yet to find the correct model ID for this watch
  2. the movemet has been swapped for a 23 jewelled movement

theoctavedoctor on the inside backcase there should be a numbered stamp. Can you please advise what that is so I can at least confirm if the movement is the correct type for the case.

theoctavedoctor
Posted August 23, 2021 - 2:47am

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Do you mean this? It's a four digit stamped number, together with some more handwritten..

backcase

mybulova_admin
Posted August 23, 2021 - 3:26am

In reply to by theoctavedoctor

7365. Thanks. Unfortunately the catalog I have doesn't list that case model.

Anyone have a 1973/74 catalog?