Bulova 1945 Senator

Submitted by neetstuf-4-u on November 28, 2022 - 9:31am
Manufacture Year
1945
Movement Model
8AH
Movement Date Code
Triangle
Movement Jewels
17
Case Serial No.
5056994
Case shape
Rectangle
Case color
Rose
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

I'm quite pleased with this one as it shows literally no wear, runs and keeps time. A little toning on the dial. Rose gold case, crown and ad confirmed original band with a copper exploding dial. I know we have discussed this model at length in the past and I think I can put it to bed. As far as I know, all the rose gold examples of this casing in the database (IDed as generic Senator) have this dial. The only other rose gold Senator (2 tone printed dial) has been ID'ed as "O" variant.  I found an ad dated 1944 that seems to ID this watch with this band as

Senator "F" in rose gold and "E" in yellow. I believe this face variant (not shown in ad) is the rose gold option of "harmonizing dial".

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neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 28, 2022 - 9:39am

1944 senator e f ad

JimDon5822
Posted November 28, 2022 - 8:15pm

1945 Bulova Senator is a sure thing.  That being said I do not think we ever assigned a variant to the others in the database.   We might need to revisit the others if we assign this one the F variant.

Kathy L.
Posted November 28, 2022 - 8:44pm

I am in for an "F" variant, I think we see different dials that are not shown in the ads.  Pretty watch.

1945 Bulova Senator "F"

Geoff Baker
Posted November 28, 2022 - 9:07pm

1940 Bulova Senator MAYBE - No variant based on how I read the advert supplied. This watch is available in 14K sold red gold OR 10k RGP with a white metal  back. the F variant, as I read was ONLY 14k solid. I'm OK tagging this watch as a Senator but not the F (or any) variant and noting a possible dial replacement

neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 28, 2022 - 9:21pm

Geoff, as the ad reads, it is either 14K red OR 10K yellow rolled gold plate, with white metal back.  No mention is made of solid gold. The price is the same for both choices $49.50. That would indicate that both are plated. As for the dial, I believe I counted 7 other examples of this casing with this dial in the database previously ID'ed as Senator..

Geoff Baker
Posted November 28, 2022 - 9:35pm

Sorry Bob - I disagree See THIS advert for confirmation of my statement, Variant D & A have white metal back, F does not (notice price difference)

neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 28, 2022 - 10:05pm

I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. Ad you reference is dated 1941. I am seeing 3 watches and only the first example "D"  calls out color and RGP, Second example "A" doesn't call out color,  but states same as above with strap. The third "F" calls out 14K gold with strap without reference made to color, which would lead me to believe it is also yellow, like the other 2. This may be (and not the first time) that a letter variant watch changed dramatically in the space of a couple years. The 1945 ad lists both colors on expansion band at the same price with a blanket description of RGP and white back..

I will agree with you that per the ad in 1941, Senator "F" was solid gold on a strap, but likely yellow.  However, in 1945, "F" was red RGP with a white metal back on an expansion band.

neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 28, 2022 - 10:31pm

I think this is all about year of production. Here is a 1947 ad to muddy the water. It calls out exploding dial red RGP with white back and expansion band as Spencer and the previous Senator "E" of 1945 as Senator "B" in 1947.

Kathy L.
Posted November 29, 2022 - 2:03pm

We might be looking at a gold filled version and a solid gold version.  I am finding ads at $39.75 and $67.50 with the leather strap.

1946 ad

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