Bulova 1959 -Non-Conforming

Submitted by brandall54 on December 28, 2018 - 7:54pm
Manufacture Year
1959
Movement Model
11AF
Movement Jewels
17
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
D950833
Case shape
Tonneau
Case color
Yellow
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Crystal details
23.2mm x 20.2mm at center 18mm on ends
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

the Case is clearly marked L9 However the 11AF movement is clearly stamp N0 1970???

1959 Bulova watch
1959 Bulova watch
1959 Bulova watch
brandall54
Posted April 13, 2019 - 6:10pm

I find it quite peculiar that a movent made from '59 to '67 could get an N0 date code stamped on it

Can anyone help me figure that one out?

The other one that showed up on Ebay very well could have been an L9 but it was too blurry to see for sure. The advertiser was selling it as a 1959

Geoff Baker
Posted April 14, 2019 - 6:56am

The date range we have in the movement database is based on observation. We adjust the beginning and ending sdates as we find new examples. I've moved the end range of the 11AF based on the example shown above.

brandall54
Posted April 14, 2019 - 4:34pm

But still no idea what model the case might be though. As of today, there are 2 more like it on Ebay. One is nice like this one and the other one looks a bit tired

brandall54
Posted April 14, 2019 - 4:39pm

This is the one that appeared last night, also advertised as an L9

Andersok
Posted April 14, 2019 - 5:39pm

It is quite possible that this watch is the Senator. Here are some 1960/1961 ads:

brandall54
Posted April 14, 2019 - 6:35pm

Amazing. It certainly does look like that. Doesn't help me much with the N0 date code on the movement but it gets closer to the L9 on the case

neetstuf-4-u
Posted April 17, 2019 - 9:34am

Casing appears by Ken's new research to indeed be Senator, but the big date gap between the case and movement is still an issue for ID.

brandall54
Posted May 7, 2019 - 10:36pm

Update

Strolling thru the 1960 Senators checking them against one I was looking at buying and I ran across this one submitted by a panel member (don't remember which one, Andersok I think.

https://www.mybulova.com/watches/1960-senator-6555

 It is a 1960 with this same 11AF movement with an N0 date code like this '59

 

brandall54
Posted May 7, 2019 - 10:47pm

That being said. I think it is fair to ask that this one be changed to a '59 Senator or the other one be changed to a "60 Non-conformer

brandall54
Posted May 8, 2019 - 3:06pm

After looking at the 1960 again, it was submitted by jabs