Can a wrong mainspring cause a watch to run fast?

Submitted by GVP on May 7, 2013 - 6:16pm

Just wondering if a wrong main spring, say with a higher tension or different length would cause a watch to run fast. I have an 11ac watch that i'm certain has the wrong spring in that runsfast, everything else has been stripped, cleaned checked etc etc but I dont have the main spring to fit to try yet. I have one coming but just wondered if anyone else had come across this or if it does even make a difference.

Thanks

GVP

JP
Posted May 7, 2013 - 7:13pm

If you don't get the mainspring contact me.

Yes it will effect the running of the watch. As the watch comes to the end of a winding it will run closer to correct until you rewind it when will start running fast again.

JP

bourg01
Posted May 7, 2013 - 9:16pm

In reply to by JP

Yes, I agree, the wrong main can cause havock. Rob can shed more light on this from a technical standpoint but the wrong mainspring will never run the watch correctly. 

Aberlow
Posted May 7, 2013 - 10:10pm

Short answer is yes. Without the right one it will never run properly. Any number of factors such as too much or little friction/tension will cause the watch to never run properly. A common phrase in regulation is "it all begins with the mainspring." If you experience a timing problem or amplitude problem, the first place to go is the mainspring. Have you been able to get it on a timing machine?  

GVP
Posted May 8, 2013 - 4:28am

In reply to by Aberlow

Thanks everyone. I haven't managed to get it on a timing machine. When i first wind it the balance seems to swing correctly, the further I wind, the faster it spins so I am guessing by what has been said this is the issue.

One other question, would the mainspring from an 11AFC  be the same as an 11ac? Just wondering as I have an 11afc mainspring here but dont want to try it if it is just going to turn out to be wrong anyway

GVP
Posted May 8, 2013 - 4:33am

It is ok, just answered my own question re main spring interchangability 

GVP
Posted May 8, 2013 - 5:16am

OK, I find the correct (maybe) main spring only for it to be broken in it's packet. Onlooking up the spring I have been given three totally different dimensions by 3 different sources, one (bestfit) says it should be 1.30 x 0.9 x 280 x 8  another (cousins uk) says it should be 1.40 x 0.95 x 300 x 8.5  and the other (ranfft) seems odd says 1.35 x 0.10 x 9.0  So which one is it? or is it none? 

How can three different places have three totally different sizes?

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 8, 2013 - 5:27am

because the 11AC has derivatives of?

11AC: manual, sub second
11ACA: auto, sub second
11ACC: auto, sweep second
11ACC: manual, sweep second

I'd follow the interchange chart and use only a genuine Bulova main marked 11AC or 10BP.

Reverend Rob
Posted May 8, 2013 - 8:35am

A too powerful mainspring can even make the escapement 'knock', where it sounds as if it is galloping. Within a small tolerance, it is important to get a mainspring as close to original spec as possible, if a branded part is unavailable. 

I tend to go by what bestfit says, but not all mainsprings are created equal. Very old springs are a different steel, and are weaker than modern springs with the exact same measurements. A watch under low power will yield low amplitude at the balance, and actually speed up. The amplitude reading will indicate whether the spring is providing too much power. The only way to know for sure what is going on is to use a timing machine, and the best quality one available, at that. There is an inexpensive Timegrapher availbale online that really is substandard and buggy.