LADIES ACCUTRON WITH DATE AND SPEIDEL BAND
CASE BACK--SER. NO. G33779, N4, GOLD PLATED BEZEL, ROLLED GOLD PLACE BACK, WATER RESISTANT.
INSIDE CASE BACK HAS INK STAMPED NUMBER 3410 AND 3/?(I THINK IT'S AN 8, ENGRAVED 9-5.
MOVEMENT: SWISS 13J, 2302, UNADJUSTED, N4. i ENTERED 14 AS ITS CLOSER TO 13 THAN THE OTHER CHOICES.
WATCH BEZEL, DIAL, HANDS, AND CRYSTAL ARE ALL PRISTINE. CASE BACK HAS AWARD ENGRAVING BUT OTHERWISE NOT SCRATCHED.
THE 2302 MOVEMENT NUMBER I FIND SURPRISING, I WOULD THINK THE TRAILING 2 WOULD MEAN DAY-DATE WHEREAS THIS WATCH ONLY HAS THE DATE WINDOW, WHICH REQUIRES EYES BETTER THAN MINE TO READ.
i APOLOGIZE FOR THE POOR IMAGES OF THE MOVEMENT AND CASE BACK AS MY CAMERA WON'T FOCUS CLOSE ENOUGH TO CATCH THE PRINTED DETAIL. ALSO THE WATCH BEZEL AND CASE ARE GOLD ALTHOUGH THEY APPEAR SILVER.
ACCUTRON Series 230
Model # Unknown.
6 variantions of the Series 230:
- 2300: no seconds
- 2301: with sweep seconds
- 2302: with sweep seconds and date
- 2303: with sweep seconds, day and date
- 2312: Same as 2302, but movement is 3.9mm (0.153") larger in diameter
- 2313: Same as 2303, but movement is 3.9mm (0.153") larger in diameter
Accutron 2302, model name/number unknown.
The 2302 is part of the 230 series. If we are only publishing as 230, that's cool. I think 2302 conveys a better ID/more info for this watch, and I'm kinda treating the "model number" like we do the variant designations in other watches. I'm not that concerned about the 230 (or 2302) already appearing in the root record under attributes of the watch and also appearing in the possible "ID Name". What name, based on ads to date and info/understanding of these Accutrons, conveys the "best" ID to date?
Will,
Your view is exactly the way to view the Accutron as all are Accutrons, Accutron was a manufacturer Name, not a Model Name.
The Series is the "model" of Accutron.
The Accutron model number is the 'variant'.
A slightly different method of identification than what We are accustomed to.
It's a little different naming convention, but in many ways it's just a modification on the same process we use for other non-accutrons.
I'm wondering what some of our non-panel members think of the naming convention? We have several folks who have entered several Accutrons and your opinion on naming is of value in this process.
Members like Peter-g, Oliverb, Accutronredux, oberuber, Drj9, lylel396 and some others. I'll ask them the general question via PM, but would welcome their input on this specific watch right here in the comments.
To me dubbing this watch as a model 2302 would be preferred. Currently a search of "my Bulova Models" shows no Ladies watches or the movements used in them. Until this watch was posted a search for 230 movements on "myBulova Watches" listed one Item a ladies watch with a 2303 movement. Movement=Model makes sense to me.
In reply to To me dubbing this watch as a by oberuber
Here is the pattern that I am seeing Will, too bad we don't have more ladies Accutron ads on hand, but in time I am sure we will.
No day or date...model is ID'd by a 3 digit number, no matter what movement (214, 218) it has. The 214 movement never had the day or date capability.
Day only...model is ID'd as a Calendar with a letter designation, no matter what movement. (except 214)
Day & Date...model is ID'd as a Day/Date with letter designation, all movements. (except the 214)
The exceptions to this "theory" are the Spaceview's & Astronaut's, which are not only named, but also have letter variants. I doubt the "Woody" is a Bulova name, but at least its a mybulova name for now.
214, 218, 218D, 2182, 219, 2210, 2300, 2301, 2302, 2303, 2312, 2313, Accuquartz 2240, 2241, 2242, ESA 9162, 9164, 9210 are all Movement numbers...just like a 10AN, 7AK, 8 AE, ect.. If your watch is not running, and you need parts to fix the Movement, guess what...you will need to know which Movement is in it to get the right part.
From the ads that we now have, the only difference in the way Bulova marketed the Accutrons verses the Mechanicals, are less names, and more numbers/letters, and ID'ing these are no different.