Sorry this has taken me so long to post it up after I got it but as most of you know I've been pretty busy the last few months. Well.. this is the first one I've gotten... I believe this is NOS.The Jefferson. We don't have an advert for this yet other than a very horrible catalog ad someplace you can barely make out it looks something like "Jefferson". Well low and behold inside the case was the original hang tag! This watch is in pristine mint condition. I haven't had one like it and certainly haven't seen one from the 1950's in this good a shape except for a couple that Oldticker had found in parts and was fixed up by Mike. I'm adding a few more pics just because I think this will be the primere go-to for this model in the future
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Jerin,
Thank You.
Note the characteristics of this Watch. 21 Jewel 7AA, Gold filled Case, Gold Caseback and a Dial showing no Minutes register, an open Seconds register and numeral placement all indictive of an 'ACADEMY AWARD'
Now note the display box, particularly the outer lid. - Curtained as on the 'ACADEMY AWARD' series display boxes.
IMO, these Watches were originally designed to be 'AA's, but with the advent of the lawsuit settlement in 1952 could not be advertised as such.
Nice piece.
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The boxes are similar. The watch designs have long been known to be similar to other watches, such as all the His Excellencies. If you've got something that works, why not stick with it?
There is no evidence of a lawsuit between the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences and Bulova. There is a 1952 FTC stipulation involving Bulova and the Academy which effected the way Bulova could advertise the watches. It did not require Bulova to stop making the Academy Awards.
The contract between Bulova and the Academy is believed to have run through 1954 and to have terminated naturally, but that is, as far as I'm concerned, unconfirmed rumor which I hope to confirm or deny very soon. We do have a 1953 ad for the an AA.
I have never seen any reference to a lawsuit or other legal matter requiring Bulova to quit making the AAs or terminating the contract early. The lawsuit that is typically cited in this regard did not involve the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, but rather a wholly unrelated, sham company. That lawsuit is public information available for anyone to read, as is the FTC stipulation.
The 1952 end date is unsupported by the known facts.
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I said the Excellencies were quite similar to the AAs, not identical. When you consider all the elements that are identical between the two lines, the absence of a minutes register is a minor difference.
And that doesn't speak at all to your incorrect statement that a lawsuit settlement required Bulova to stop making the AAs in 1952. I'm still waiting for facts to back up that statement. Where's your research?