The BULOVA "BRIGADIER" Circa, 1948. 21 Jewel, Caliber 8AE. Identified from a 1948 vintage Jeweler's ad with the Brigadier Illustrated, thereon. (As well as the Shirley...) I presume this was a 1948 release, as I see it listed as being available in models: A, B and C, in a 1948 crystal catalog...
The case and dial look rather similar to the "Douglas" model, from about the same production timeframe, and therefore likely a capitalization upon the popularity of the Douglas style...
And like the Douglas... the Brigadier appears to have ALSO cam in Models A-E in the 1948 +/- timeframe... sported a 21 jewel movement, and even took the same glass+ as shown below...
Best :-) William
And as par... there were several "Brigadier" models produced... (Which when, who knows???)
MODEL GS SUC BB PERFIT
Brigadier RMS127-15T
Brigadier "B" RMS124-27T HMC211/6
Brigadier, Douglas D CMX324-6C RMS124-27 CMX2135 188
MC214/5, HMC212/8 188
Brigadier D , E CMX2151A
In reply to That looks like my watch, the by billgreenlane
YIIKES!
Is that actually a "NOS" retailer Tag?! I didn't bid... :-( (Registered TM visible... The photos were so lame, I didn't scrutinize that tag!) This is interesting... there seems little difference between these two models? Perhaps the Brigadier is simply a REISSUE of the Douglas, as the Douglas "D" takes the same crystal as a Brigadier, at least in about 1948!
I'll have to search my HD and then upload a "Douglas" grouping, to make this less confusing... since I recall the Douglas came in WGF with a grey dial, YGF with several, and RGF with at least one dial variant... PLUS a two- tone dial, in solid 14 karat! (And I only see Stephen's '51 listed here to date, amazingly!?I sold a half dozen glass in 2010, but WHERE are the darn Doug pics???)
And I/we (?) now have no confirmed image/s... of a "Brigadier!"
Good Snipe, sir!?
:-) Scott
P.S. I added the Douglas (models) data here: http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1946-douglas-1629
so am I now the owner of a Douglas???
In reply to so am I now the owner of a by shooter144
Sniper,
I dunno? Got "digital calipers" yet, man?? (Wink...) I was actually going to email you back and ask if you had the same "Douglas" crystal proportions, and where you got the "Brigadier" ID?!?
I can of course send you glass for BOTH options in the same size range? (Then refund the 2nd, upon it's return.) Or you can alternately send me the old crystal, for an exact match??
Two "NOS" Dougs that just sold this weekend:
The Douglas "B:"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=17060…
And the "E:"
Model http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-NOS-Bulova-Douglas-E-21-Jewel-Wristwatch-/1…;
:-) Scott
no digi calipers yet...was Id'ed by Wayne its listed here www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-brigadier-1519 specs were from here www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-brigadier-1577
I think I have that right lol anyway the watches appear the same without measurement...I will wait untill I can measure it up for ya prolly tues and let you know....
In reply to no digi calipers yet...was by shooter144
Hey Chris,
I see... The black dial on your timepiece appears original enough? However we don't have a FOR SURE ID just yet, for a Brigadier... and that's mainly WHY I posted the bit on the Douglas models. (i.e. we have yet to determine if the Brig has a different movement, dial finish/es, hands, band/s, etc.?)
Ok... I'll wait for the follow- up then, prior to shipping any glass your way... If that black dial is ORIGINAL (vs. say a grey, etc.?) then that watch is scarce, or rare, regardless of namesake!
Best :-) Scott
It appears original, it fits well and the wear is exact to the case. I mean, unless you bought it new, its almost impossible to say it IS original...but I would think it is. I considered having the dial redone..think maybe not now , It actually looks pretty good real life, most wear isnt visable. The numerals could use a clean but I have no real idea how to clean them without farther damage to the dial.