Bulova 1945 Time King

Submitted by FifthAvenueRes… on December 17, 2013 - 10:08pm
Manufacture Year
1945
Movement Model
7AP
Movement Date Code
Triangle
Movement Jewels
21
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
4270583
Case shape
Rectangle
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Additional Information

Case measures 35mm lug to lug X 20.5mm non inclusive of the Crown using Calipers. 

Silvered Dial shows applied Gilt Arabic numerals, tracks and Bulova signature are printed in Black.

Hour and Minute Hands are Gilt Modern and a Gilt Modern Seconds Hand shows on a sub-Dial fully obscuring the 6.

Double Datestamp on the Movement.

Snap fit Caseback is Gold and stamped as shown.

 

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William Smith
Posted January 4, 2014 - 1:47am

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

Yea I see the jewel count difference as well as Rose vs Yellow....

and the price lists don't give jewel count, but the ads do.  

I'm back at Time King and would go two ticks for tentative.

Reverend Rob
Posted January 2, 2014 - 8:15am

I'm inclined to agree with TIme King. The Black one that Plains has may very well be a re-dial, it has that look about it. 

mybulova_admin
Posted January 5, 2014 - 9:53pm

I curious where Scott originally came up with the Time King as 21J. If we had evidence of that I'd be more inclined to agree with the Time King call.

William Smith
Posted January 20, 2014 - 1:56am

In reply to by mybulova_admin

I think this is the post you mention about Scott :http://www.mybulova.com/node/1688

And OT does have a 21 jewel time king, altough I think it's "tentative"

I'd vote for tenative Time King and we can always change later.

Will

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted January 16, 2014 - 10:17am

admin,

The Watch Model ID is pure logic.

The Glass fits 2 Models, the early-mid 1940's 'BROADCASTER' and the 'TIME KING'. The 'BROADCASTER' being positively identified by ad as being the same as the subject except the Jewel count.

'BROADCASTER' is 17 Jewels.

Subject  is 21 Jewels.

2 - 1 = 1

'TIME KING'

it's all We have.

OldTicker
Posted January 19, 2014 - 11:42pm

I would agree with a tenative Time King as a ID on this one...not that I have a bias or anything... :<)

 

GVP
Posted April 7, 2014 - 9:00am

I'm just going to chuck another spanner into the mix here.  Take the 1938 models named Broadcaster & Time King. These look very different to these models as they are tonneau style but interestingly both are listed as taking the same crystal as each other again. The broadcaster in this case has 21j as the advert shows. I cant find an ad for the time king (yet again). But why would they change the broadcaster from a 21j to a 17j in the space of 5 years. Is it possible that one of these 1940's A/B/C Broadcasters did have a 21j movement? Or perhaps the more expensive Broadcaster from the price list?  I'm hung on this one.  I'm interested because I have the Yellow 21j 1943 version and the Rose 17j 1943 version sitting here peaking my interest.

 

1938 Broadcaster 21j

bourg01
Posted April 7, 2014 - 1:01pm

From what I've seen here there's no hard evidence to support the Time King and plenty to support the Broadcaster. I'm going to ive Mark the benefit of the doubt but  unconfirmed tillsome solid evidence comes along.

William Smith
Posted December 31, 2014 - 5:14am

I'm at two ticks for Time King, even though Fifth and OT have one w/ 21 jewels...we don't have an ad, and it sure looks like a yellow 17 jewel Broadcaster to me.  I think we are still basing this on some crystal specs Scott typed into another record a few years ago.