Bulova 1945 Envoy

Submitted by Kunapets on December 12, 2012 - 1:49pm
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Looks similar to 1945 Brigadier and 1945 Douglas, but not the same dial and slight difference in the case. The watch band pin holes do not extend through the case to be visible on the outside (like the Brigadier). Movement is seventeen  17  jewels  ,  unadjusted  , swiss  ,  with a mark  MX(?). the MX (?) looks like the MX is followed by a small square with some marking inside. I cannot make out the mark inside the square.

Not sure about the date, but I think I am close.

Thanks  Ken S

1945 Bulova watch
1945 Bulova watch
1945 Bulova watch
1945 Bulova watch
Posted December 12, 2012 - 1:56pm

Another solid gold "Douglas-alike".


Ken, is there any date marks that match any in the information drop-down Bulova Date Codes on the movement?

William Smith
Posted December 12, 2012 - 2:02pm

Ken  The MX(?) is most likely the Swiss to USA Bulova Import code BXW. This was required on movements which were "assembled" and imported.  I dont' know how many of these movements with this code were timed and cased in USA.  Also don't remember if Swiss eubauchs required this import code or not, as it's usually stamped on the balance cock.

Posted December 12, 2012 - 5:20pm

Beautiful but Unknown. I think Plainsmen has one like it but not sure.

Posted December 12, 2012 - 7:09pm

I looked at it with a 28x loop and it is the BXW import code. Carefully checked and there are no other markings.


Thanks for the ID help.  Ken S

Posted December 12, 2012 - 7:53pm

Ken, can you post a close up shot of the movement and of the inside of the case back, if anything is stamped inside? Thanks

Posted December 15, 2012 - 5:28am


Posted December 17, 2012 - 10:38am

Watch case has no markings inside, and the movement shows BXW and SWISS as seen in the attached Pix.

Thanks  KS

Posted December 17, 2012 - 10:50am

Is that a circle date code just above the "seventeen jewels" stamp?

1944 if it is.

Posted December 17, 2012 - 11:59am

Ken, thanks for the pics.

Bobbee, that does look lke a circle but I think the date code is to the left of the balance wheel and just happens to be a circle too.

So how are we dating the case?