Bulova 1938 -Unknown

Submitted by plainsmen on December 26, 2011 - 8:38pm
Manufacture Year
1938
Movement Model
10AE
Movement Date Code
Cresent Moon
Movement Jewels
7
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
8281598
Case shape
Stepped
Case color
Yellow
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Looks quite a bit like the Ranger of these years, but etched down either side of the bezel. This watch's movement is double stamped with the Arrow and then handstamped with the Crescent Moon.  So we're looking at 1937-1938.

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mybulova_admin
Posted December 26, 2011 - 11:19pm

hmm, this one is a problem child..always pops its head up and we always have a hard time trying to nail down an ID.

The only close thing is the wondering second hand President. I wonder if this model replaced it.

William Smith
Posted March 8, 2013 - 7:52pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

 

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Wayne Hanley
Posted November 19, 2011 - 12:07pm

Plaines

It looks like a 1931 Lone Eagle case w/o chevrons on horizontal bezel. Dial & hands are LE. Looze the movement & acquire an appropriate 17 jewel movement.  

You can lead a collector to water, but you can't make'em think!

 
plainsmen
Posted November 19, 2011 - 8:14am

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Hrmm.. I think the engraved ranger wannabe is a bit fatter Wayne.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted November 19, 2011 - 12:11pm

Plains

Check the addition of the two Lone Eagle III watches above. The case without the chevrons is penalized to NO NAME. What a shame. Let's keep it in the stone age until you find an ad.

 
mybulova_admin
Posted November 19, 2011 - 11:05pm

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I agree this should remain an 'Unknown' until such time we have something tangable. The LE III whilst similar was, from what we can tell, only ever released with the top and bottom chevrons.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted November 20, 2011 - 12:30am

I think it should at least be discussed! The case sare the same measurements! Engraved Ranger wanane? Ranger?

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Posted November 20, 2011 - 4:39am

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A Watch in this configuration is shown as part Bulova's Westfield line named the 'HUDSON'.

Although not a Westie it's a start and shows the Watch did exist, not a 'LONE EAGLE' nor the 'RANGER', the glass differs.

ad Dated 1940

 
simpletreasures
Posted November 20, 2011 - 5:56am

Since we're throwing out "theories" I throw this one into the mix......

Since these watches were all hand assembled, is it possible that one of the "assemblers" did a "mix and match" for themselves or as a gift or out of boredom? Based on my research, the Westies and standard Bullys were coming out of the same place during this time frame.

If this possibility exists, then we need a new descriptive category or terminology other than "Frakenbully"...

I suggest,    "Westbully"  or  "Bulowest" ???

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted November 20, 2011 - 6:39am

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?

The subject is a Bulova with Bulova signed movement and Dial. Although the Westfield version is identical and named 'HUDSON' Westfield movements were signed as such and the Dial is clealy signed Westfield in the ad.

it's anyones guess at this time what the Bulova signed version was called.

 
simpletreasures
Posted November 20, 2011 - 7:14am

My comment on the theories was in response to the LE produced without the bezel "chevrons" by the lugs.

I want your toaster  :-O

William Smith
Posted March 8, 2013 - 8:01pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Mayhaps it's the engraving that I can't see that is a praleem!

 
simpletreasures
Posted November 20, 2011 - 9:22am

A what? Sorry Wayne, don't get it?

 
JP
Posted March 2, 2012 - 2:11pm

Panel Member

If it looks like a hudson and ticks like a hudson it probably is a hudson. My vote is hudson with out the westfield signature.

jp

 
JP
Posted April 25, 2012 - 11:33am

Panel Member

Looks a lot like a 36 Ranger. Even the dial is the same except for the seconds register which is slightly curved  on the verticles. I have a 36 Ranger with the 10AE but 15 jewels not 7. Is the case hinged? Mine is.

JP

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William Smith
Posted April 25, 2012 - 12:15pm

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subject looks like snap back, no hinge

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted December 27, 2011 - 2:21am

Westfield called it the 'HUDSON'

ad Dated 1940

JP
Posted March 5, 2012 - 1:55pm

It is called ..............One Beautiful Watch........and I want one just like it. Why the arrow and cresent moon??

Nice catch.

JP

bobbee
Posted March 8, 2013 - 3:40pm

Alexander.

The Horatio is seven jewels in the bottom ad and is the same price in both ads, and the same price as the Alexander, so possibly seven jewels also, as they are the only two models in this ad without a jewel-count.

 

William Smith
Posted March 8, 2013 - 6:08pm

duplicate record here:  http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1938-unknown-3253

This record has better camera angle pics then duplicate above.  Perhaps useful comments in the other record can be pasted in this record, since it's the same watch.  Then the other record can be deleted.
I'm good with tentative Alexander ID.

bobbee
Posted March 8, 2013 - 6:12pm

Case SN is jumbled in root record.

bobbee
Posted March 9, 2013 - 6:40am

Nice splice, Will!

bobbee
Posted March 10, 2013 - 7:18pm

I found only one other Alexander ad, from October 1936, but many Horatio ads, all with no mention of jewel count.