Miss Liberty with 6 synthetic sapphires. Top middle stone looks to be a replacement. Nice filigree bracelet. Movement has the omega symbol for 1930 but case s/n starts with 9 so I'm thinking the movement might have been swapped. Would like to hear your thoughts on that.
Will, We've seen Bulova's with older movement and newer cases,but never the other way around! That's why I'm guessing it might be a swap. With Bulova though you just never know. If I had a vote I would still consider this to be a 29. For full disclosure though I would always mention the 30 movement. By the way a Miss Liberty with a mvt. swap just sold for 317.05 on Ebay!
I don't think "never the other way around" is a correct statement. At least not in how we have been determining and assiging watch production dates. I'm sure we have dated watch records based on the newest "part" when they could have been original and were within a year or so. A case made in 1929 may not get a movement installed by Bulova until 1930. Could happen with some excess cases being used up at the beginning of the next year, using movements date stamped from that "next" year.
I saw that eBay listing too. Wow
Just trying to be consistent in our SOP for assigning production dates. ...or know when and why we make an exception to the SOP so I can apply that exception where appropriate...:)
In reply to After a quick check of the DB by Bob Bruno
Thanks for recap on 6AP in Miss Liberty examples. I think DarHin agrees with your dating SOP - at least for this instance, if not across the board. Movements can always be swapped/replaced, but the first digit of case SN sure indicates this case was manufactured in 1929. It's not the SOP the panel has been using to assing dates though.
I certainly have no problem with what ever the panel decides. For me it's a 29, but if the panel says 30 thats ok too. Thats why I asked for opinions. Just curious though. Why wouldn't the panel use case s/n first? Seems logical to me when a case has an older mvt. by a year or two.
Whilst researching the same model which i have here but with green stones I was all ready to call is a Miss Liberty. But please all look at the CASE SHAPE. This model has the case shape of the Miss America (smooth curved sides, not tonneau corners) but the Stone layout of the Miss Liberty. So is this watch neither. Did the design change at somepoint and the name remain? This may have been debated elsewhere, if so please point me in that direction.
