Bulova 1924 6513

Submitted by jabs on October 23, 2015 - 7:27am
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I'm a little embarrassed, I think the 6513 or Pater may be

an interesting movement 6TAA, but without winding stem

as case marked may be production year 1922, movement signed 1924


1924 Pater
1924 Bulova watch
1924 Bulova watch
1924 Bulova watch
1924 Bulova watch
Posted October 24, 2015 - 6:31am

Nice watch Jabs. Difficult to give a name for this one since case date is not consistent with the movement date.But I would go for 6513. Let me tell some back ground on the case and on the movement.

The case is given the 12 number from around 1923. It has the very nice triangular flower side engraving, 5 in total on each side (count teh points of the triangles), that in later models increased to 9. You see that also the sides of the bottom plate are engraved. You see that only in early cases with 12 and 13 numbers. The bezel engraving has this curly pattern and not the expected laurel leave patterns that so many other models have. So far, I have seen this only on this model with case numbers starting with 12 and 13, like yours, but also on some early Princines. 

The movement is from 1924. It must be one of the last 6TAA's since this one is the only one I have ever seen with a date code. Normally they come without date code and are from 1923, but always signed with "Bulova Watch Co." so from after April 1923. In 1924 the 6TAA got succeeded by the 6TA that all have a date code, either Asterisk (1924), either circle (1925). The earliest 6TA I saw has date code Asterisk with number 31362, while your 6TAA is number 27024. So indeed yours must have been one of the last 6TAA's before they changed it to 6TA.


Geoff Baker
Posted October 24, 2015 - 7:04am

I can't help but wonder if the date code was added last minute, which would add to Edmundo's speculation that it was one of the last 6TAA's. If so, this could be one of the first date coded Bulova movements. Pure speculation but fun to consider. 

Agree with 6513 ID based on it being gold filled.

Posted October 26, 2015 - 6:36am

Movement is dated 1924, case dates 1922.

Could be either the 6713 or the 6513. the 7/5 indicate the jewel count but as this is a 16J movement, which model is it, unless there is a 6613 we haven't seen yet?

FYI, I have recorded a 1927 movement with serial number 27079 (55 more than this watch) with a 5AP 15J movement....go figure.

Geoff Baker
Posted October 27, 2015 - 6:30am

Yeah, I keep missing that case s/n. 

Anyone have a problem tagging this one as a 1922 model 6513?

William Smith
Posted October 28, 2015 - 3:15am

I'd go for 1924 w/ that asterisk.  Looks like a 6513 model, but not long after this time/example, it has a name.  Nice watch Jabs!