Hi folks
I am trying to identify an unusal 1955, mens 21 jewel mechanical. I have search this site and numerous other vintage watch sites to no avail. There are several photos attached. The case is simple, but the chrystal is quite unique. Any info would be much appreciated. Bill
My guess would be that is the original crystal, as it is complimentary to the case. Fancy or faceted crystals are not unusual in watches of this vintage, but the movt in your watch is a good one. This was the base calibre for automatics that were to follow, like the BPAC. Do you have a picture of the entire movt? This watch would be easy to restore, as it it is already in overall very good condition. I strongly recommend not running it until it is properly serviced, as it can be damaged by running dirty or dried out.
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Removing the crystal and cleaning up the bezel would give you the most accurate measurement but if you can measure the crystal with calipers it will help point us in the right direction. Measure as accurately as possible because there could be dozens of crystals that are within 2-3 tenths of a millimeter of yours. Be careful not to scratch your case if using a metal instrument.
Darren
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I will do my best to measure the crystal. I've got a metric ruler around here somewhere!
Indeed, the marking on the movement is L9 and the case says L5. The watch belonged to my Dad, who had it since new. Mom has no recollection of it ever being needing repair, of course that could be a long time ago... Non conforming sounds so ominous, especially when in italics! The metal, stretchy band says Foster on it. Could this be orignal? I'm inclined to put a nice leather strap on it when I have it serviced. Do you know a shop in teh Houston area that I could use?
Here is a better pic of the whole front view
BTW.. I would like to say, that I have been a member of a number of online forums over the years.. mostly for cars, and you fine folks are by far the most responsive, knowledgable and professional people I have dealt with. Especially to a non horologist like myself. Thank you !!!
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This has been interesting for me. The watch belonged to my Dad, so at the end of the day, the value or originality isn't the key.. Just trying to figure out what it is. I wish I had ssked him when I had the chance. I'm sure you understand. My Son who is 29 has recently become intrested in watches. Newer stuff.. mostly brands I've never heard of. But he does know that older Bulovas are special. So this will be his eventually, and having an understanding of the piece will make it just that much more special to have.
Hi Bill Try not to be put off by a "non-conforming" watch. I think of them as customized or otherwise modified from the "original" configuration of the watch model at date of production. The site is working on a category in which these watches will fit which denotes their uniqueness as Bulova which are non-conforming to the model exemplified in the vintage ads we have to date. There are some "rules" to be in this category. Generally some combination of: Bulova signed dial, Bulova movement, Bulova manufactured case. We would not consider a Bulova movement in a case manufactured by another company as a "Bulova", so that configuration would not be listed on this site at all. Sometimes folks get one of these "marriages" and they are not aware it's not all Bulova parts, so to speak. Those are often listed here in a forum or as an unknown until folks here can help the owner determine that the parts are not all Bulova. Then they can either be deleted from the database or remain in the forum threads if the details of the non-bulova watch are a common issue folks run into (but this is the exception for them to remain on site, and would only happen if the particular marriage is often misidentified as a "Bulova" - to help new members learn).
There are myriad reasons for a "non-conforming" Bulova watch. Perhaps the owner was doing the dishes and his Ruxton got wet. He went to the corner jewelry store to try to get it serviced. The jeweler could have said "this is your lucky day. I have another bulova movement w/ 21 jewels and it's a more accurate movement then your original 17jewel which came in the Ruxton. I can put it in the watch for the same price it would cost to service your old movement". Maybe at this juncture, the owner saw a Bulova signed dial which would fit the Ruxton case, and they liked it's looks more than the "original Ruxton configuration" and asked the jeweler to add this dial while swapping the movement.
Since all "parts" are Bulova, this new "Bulova" customized to the owners preference would end up in the non-conforming category on this site. While the owner searches for a model name for the entire watch, one doesn't exist. It's been customized. But in the thread of the discussion, things like "looks like a Ruxton case" or "nicer movement than the original 17jewel movement" help the owner determine what their unique Bulova watch is made of. In many examples, in my opinion, some of the nicest looking Bulova watches are these unique customized watches.
Hope this takes a little sting away from the often misunderstood "non-confirming" title.
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This has been interesting for me. The watch belonged to my Dad, so at the end of the day, the value or originality isn't the key.. Just trying to figure out what it is. I wish I had asked him when I had the chance. I'm sure you understand. My Son who is 29 has recently become intrested in watches. Newer stuff.. mostly brands I've never heard of. But he does know that older Bulovas are special. So this will be his eventually, and having an understanding of the piece will make it just that much more special to have.
Hi All, after viewing this thread, http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1953-ruxton-2819, I'm sure that my watch isn't a Ruxton A. Very similar though. There is a model mentioned called a Moonbeam. I haven't been able to find a picture of one. Does anyone have a photo of a Moonbeam? Thanks again for all of the input I have received. Bill
They are very similar, I agree, but mine has completely flat sides, (see image above, I don't know how to put them side by side) where the 1953 has detail shaped into the sides that continues from the corners. Someone said the Moonbeam looked a lot like the Ruxton, which is why I asked. If the 1953 is a Ruxton A, maybe mine is a Ruxton B... if there is such a thing. Interesting that this Ruxton also has an odd shape crystal. I bet I've looked at hundreds of '50s Bulovas online and have not seen one other with a crystal like mine. Is it THAT unusual?