Hey Gents this is really awesome!
I got this ad from a 1940-41 Sears Catalog recently uncovered... sorry the quality doesn't get any better than this.
Either Sears sent out this catalog with 1 error to thousands and thousands of people, or the Lone Eagle A... was produced in 1940-41!!
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Mua.... Muaahh... Muahahahahahahaha!!! [/mad scientist laugh]
Acutally... I dunno... we have 2 examples of the Ambassador A in the database. They're different than Old Tickers below... which seems to match better with the above ad.
Of course... maybe Tickers is the Lone Eagle B... engraved.. and the other ones we have are the Lone Eagle A's unengraved? After a second look they sure look like the above watch ad as well.
Wow.. look at the ad above and compare it to this! The bracelet matches PERFECTLY!
www.mybulova.com/watches/1941-ambassador-1201
Greg you may have our only 1941 Lone Eagle!
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Plains,
40-41 Sears full catalog? Must be a fall issue, I will keep my eye out for that one and others, auction sale season is about to start up here..
I also talked to a couple of local jewelry store owners today that were/are Bulova dealers, and while they were not owners in the 40's era, they are going to check and see if they have any info from the past relating to Bulova that may be in storage. I am going to visit one guy on Saturday, so I have my fingers crossed and hope to have some tidbits this weekend.
This may be the only way left to get info on these watches and I would encourage others to make a few phone calls to local jewlers/watchmakers in your area, the 2 gents I talked to today seemed more than happy to answer my questions and very interested helping.
Greg
Thanks to Plains and this great new advert, the above ad is either wrong or this ad is.
Full advert here: http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/Bulova_AD_1941_…
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This ad clearly missing the rings on the lugs...the Sears ad clearly shows them...other than that it looks the same, but do we have any specs on size or crystal? Untill we do we cannot speculate that the Lone Eagle A isnt a Lone Eagle A just because of an ad that looks the same and nothing else to back it up, especially when all else does match up on the Lone Eagles...
BS.
GS Crystal has confirmed the 1940-41 Lone Eagle existance.
Does the 'ENGINEER' have a Stainless Steel Caseback as described in the LE ad?
What are its Case dimensions?
Crystal dimensions?
Obviously it doesn't take the same Glass as the 1940-41 'LONE EAGLE' and I'm fairly confident GS doesn't name their Watch Glass from vintage ads.
2 different Watches Gents.
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Ok, all three of mine measure 24.93 ishx29.27 ish case size and 23.89 ish x18.0 ish chrystal using mitutoyo self calibrating calipers, the case size does not match the Ambasador and the crystal specs match the GS MT 346-23 Lone Eagle crystal package posted here www.mybulova.com/watches/1942-unknown-2320
Compare those measurements to the Engineer if anyone has them.
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I think its the other way around Jerin as per all of our earlier debates....my 3 are all smooth and as Ive posted, correct to add (cept for the gold back ) and your crystal snapped tightly in as it should.
Lone Eagle A
Now..stop frettin over this and find out what my fancy smancy 51 unk is www.mybulova.com/watches/1951-unknown-3034 please please with a new 4 wheeler on top !!!!!
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Bulova Rule Number One - Don't assume anything!
However, having been in the technical publishing bidness, it's amazing how stuff get's mis-labled, with 4 levels of quality assurance. Bulova has not produced the same watch (hardware) having two different names, Even Bulova wouldn't do that. Study the Ranger thing and it's a phase-in, phase-out thing. If somebody turns up an Engineer watch per the ad, how are they goeing to tell the difference.
Typo!
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So then whats the above pic with the engraving?? I have 3 of these, 2 gold back and one stainless or the other way around lol. All have exactly the same measurements and the crystal labeled Lone Eagle a fits perfectly in all of them. Only one has that exact band, other two are without. (gold back came with the band)
Nice find Plains ! Now find my other two unks !!!!!
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Crystal measurements fit, so does the crystal, its ONLY named as the Lone Eagle A on the crystal envelope ( I know that, in and of itself, is not conclusive ) all 3 measure exactly the same with my high dollar Mituyomahamutsosanuso calipers, one has the exact band as the add (other 2 have none) and all 3 look just like the ad and match the description (except for the gold back 1 year off from the add I think)....how much more do we really need???? I mean Really????
Lone Eagle A
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I think we are getting stupid here just to keep our precious Lone Eagle Series in the 'COOL' category. These watches are Lone Eagles. Ad says so...crystal says so..only thing we have to refute it is oh boy it COULD be a Ranger...or an Ambassador..no wait we measured that one, doesnt fit the marked crystal...Have a Ranger to measure or a marked crystal to compare??? then we can argue it some more but until then, Its a LONE EAGLE A
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Yea well I gues we need some reality checks then, Bulova made a not so cool Lone Eagle...deal with it people.
2 of mine have a ss back...so at least 2 of them ARE Lone Eagle A and one could be....Im done with this one lol
Thanx again for the waterproofing for my ORD and pffft on you for buying up all the hands Lmao I bet Ticker has some so there !!! HaHA !! I hope Ticker has some....
I have two myself, one with ss back and one with gold. No engraving other than the rings at each end of lugs. The one with ss back has a short wire between lungs on both ends. I don't have a crystal to try to see if it fits but I can tell you that the crystal in the one watch is 24.23mm by 18.25mm measured by my vernier caliper with self zero set. So what do we have??
JP
admin,
I agree.
The 'LONE EAGLE' has been described as having a Stainless Steel Caseback in one of the vintage ads. We have seen an example of this Watch with Gold Caseback dated 1939, the suggestion being that in the 1930's Bulova Watches did indeed have Gold backs transitioning to Stainless Steel in 1940.
I agree with this, but it does not explain away Shooters example of this Case dated 1942 with a Gold back.