i did a search on yahoo for reviews on novastar watch oil..i didn't seem to find any...has anyone use these types of oils? are they just as good as moeibus?
i understand that people here go buy the more expensive something is.is because its better..but moeibus does have a monoploy on watch oil so they can set what ever price they want.sort of what happend with att and mci,mci was just as good but cheaper...i actually just restocked all of my moeibus oil anway...
no they don't make novastar..but they seem to have been recommend by all the swiss watch companies, most likely because its made by the swiss...so if moeibus is used by everyone and is a standard of all the companies, i would say that is a monoploy just like microsoft was...even though they had companies making software..
I may be wrong, but we tracked this down once, while we were in school. Moebius comes from Bergeon, and Bergeon is now owned by Rolex. This doesn't necessarily mean that Bergeon makes the stuff themselves, although they do make a lot of things. This is not surprising, as Rolex has a long history of buying up patents and companies that will help them manufacture their watches. Swatch, for example, owns essentially the only source for 'normal' hairsprings- Nivarox. Everyone from Patek to (insert lower end brand here) uses them. Moebius is the industry standard for a reason, it is extremely high quality synthetic oil. There are other oils out there, German, American, French, etc. and some are available only in Europe. All the professional repair shops use Moebius, as do the Authorized Service Centres, and the watch companies themselves insist upon Moebius oils and lubricants. Breitling also uses Molykote, by Dow Corning.
Originally, in the 50's, watchmakers were slow to adopt the new oils, because it meant that the watches didn't need to be serviced for another 5-7 years. They saw it as a loss of income. However, with the global shortage of watchmakers, there is no shortage of work, and this is not a consideration. It is a pleasure to service a watch that has been properly cared for, and these are few and far between in the world of vintage watches. If my customer comes back in 7 years and I do the watch again, I know it has been protected properly by the oils, and there should be minimum wear and I will have minimum problems. If there is a better oil out there, I haven't seen it, and we experimented with several, and we had problems with one. I haven't used Novastar, so I can't comment on it, but if you're going to stay in the repair business, you're going to need the Moebius oils anyway.
thanks ROB AGAIN...that is interesting to know about rolex owning bergeron and otheres..to be honest the bergeron tools and items i have bought i really couldn't understand the high price..granted i didin't buy something extremely expensive..but at 100 150 200 dollars i just don't see the justification for those prices after seeing the and having other tools of their products..230 dollars of an oil well? insane..and that is just one example of the many...i guess if you only wanted brand new tools ,they are the only way to go for the most part.them and hortec..
Swiss tools, regardless of the manufacturer, will always be more expensive. Since Switzerland is the 'home' of watchmaking, so to speak, the Swiss are often the only source for some of the specialized tools. We had a Swiss drill press, (a huge non-horological model) I forget the manufacturer, but it was insanely expensive.
Ok, I was wrong.
Bergeon may indeed be owned by Rolex, and/or Patek as the rumours maintain, but they do not own Moebius. Moebius is now owned by the Swatch Group, who own ETA, Nivarox-FAR, Renata (batteries), and Tiffany & Co. (Among many others) They celebrated 220 years in 2011.