Picked up this pretty little gal this week. I think it is Olivia and would be the first in the DB. Not sure on the date because the serial number starts with a 4 but the ad is from 1927 and the movement is 1928. Might have a dial/movement replacement? I think it might be worth trying to find a new correct movement/dial replacement, the dial is pretty dirty.
It is solid 14k with black enamel.
Hi Kathy, your watch is the Olivia. Very beautiful! For dating the watch we have to go by the movement, that as you indicate, could be a replacement. The 5-digit case serial is not indicative of the year since that system only applies to the 7-digit serials of American Standard. This case is made by someone else, most likely Pioneer, who is the only case manufacturer that uses a 5-digit serial with this font type.
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Man, that is a killer watch! Judging by the discoloration on the dial, my guess would be this watch has been together a very long time as seen. Dating by movement code, and the fact it is only a year off from the ad, I would be inclined to call her a 1928; pending Alex's s/n check.
Minutes track and discoloration is a match to the case opening, and the ad is pretty weak on dial detail. Personally, I would leave her as-is. It would be a shame to modify her based on a single identified example (this one) and a guess when it's possible the single ad may show artistic license. If you look at the dial numbers font, they appear to me to be a close match the artist rendition ad, noting the "8" and "3" in particular.
Not implying the dial is indeed original or replacement - not enough data for me to say one way or the other.
1928 Olivia pending date check of case
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The serial is an indication of 1928. Last double check is the gold colour. In 1928, the white gold colour changed to bright blueish white versus a more dull grey white colour in 1927 and before. You can compare it to the 156 from 1923 you have. You will immediately see if the colour is different.let us know.
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