Bulova 1933 Envoy

3/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.01
Manufacture Year: 
1933
Movement Symbol: 
Square
Movement Model: 
10AN
Movement Jewels: 
15
Movement Serial No.: 
229730
Case Serial No.: 
3002379
Case shape: 
Square
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
22mm Square - domed glass
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

Crystal broken, but I do have it.    Runs very well.   Silver lumed dial and Cathederal like hands?

Dished case back??

 

I think this is an Ambassador - MyBulova advert 2 of 36 right hand bottom corner - but will leave that up to you???

Edit:  Movement serial No on closer inspection looks to be 229730 and the Case No is 3002379.

Will post more pictures once I can take better ones that show the numbers.

 

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Geoff Baker
Posted December 24, 2013 - 6:49am

Club 5000Panel Member

Hi Janet, I agree that this is an Ambassador. You do have a mismatched set of hands, the minute hand is not correct and could be replaced.  I think this is the ad you referred to.....

 

Janet
Posted December 24, 2013 - 7:38am

Hi Geoff, the hands do seem to be mismatched,but I wonder if the hour hand is incorrect or the minute hand???    I do not have any other hands that I could put on this watch and I need a crystal as well.   A big Merry Christmas to all - as well - Cheers with Beers

 

Geoff Baker
Posted December 25, 2013 - 6:40am

Club 5000Panel Member

Janet, the hour hand is correct. Send a PM to member JP - he has replacements.

mybulova_admin
Posted December 25, 2013 - 4:05am

Club 5000Panel Member

Janet, there also seems to be a potential mis-match between the case serial number starting with a '33' thus indicating 1933 and the square date stamp (1927).

The movement serial number is also interesting. Any chance we can get a confirmation on the case and movement serial numbers. Can you provide more photos of these numbers please.

The watch seems like it's been put together with different parts and I'm hoping to establish if they do indeed all belong together.

The case could be either an Ambassador or an Envoy.

Janet
Posted December 25, 2013 - 5:03am

Hi Stephen

Have placed an edit - the case starts with 30 not 33 and the movement is 229730

mybulova_admin
Posted December 25, 2013 - 8:38pm

Club 5000Panel Member

Ahh that makes more sense for the movement serial number, but the case (1933) still seems a mis-match for the movement.

Janet
Posted December 25, 2013 - 9:15pm

The case Number starts with 30

Geoff Baker
Posted December 26, 2013 - 7:25am

Club 5000Panel Member

Hi Janet, the theory is that the first number of the case serial is the last number of the year "3" designating 1933. If we go with that year, to Stephen's point, the case is an Envoy as illustrated below and the movement is a possible replacement to the case. This is a 1932 ad:

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 26, 2013 - 3:27pm

No longer a theory Geoff.

The earlier 'AMBASSADOR' Case is Tr-fold, as admin points out the subject Case is Dated 1933.

mybulova_admin
Posted December 26, 2013 - 10:19pm

Club 5000Panel Member

So based on the case serial and design its an Envoy with an earlier 1927 movement. The Envoy would hvae had an 10AN in it so I'd still be happy to classify it as such despite the difference in years. We've noted the mis-match aspects of the watch for anyone reading and using this as a basis for a future ID.