Bulova 1933 Envoy

4/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
3
Manufacture Year: 
1933
Movement Symbol: 
X
Movement Model: 
10AN
Movement Jewels: 
15
Movement Serial No.: 
None
Case Serial No.: 
205671
Case shape: 
Tonneau
Crystal Details: 
24mm L x 7mm W - 19.7mm middle
Additional Information: 

The first tonneau design Bulova of the 1930s. Notice the familiar diamond & ball engraving pattern used on the 1931 Lone Eagle III & 1932/1933 President. Also interesting to note is the smooth sides on the case, no more opposing arrows. This watch must be pretty scarce, it's the first one I have seen, other than the ad.

The ads are dated 1934.

Added 7-27-2011

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mybulova_admin
Posted July 27, 2011 - 7:16am

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Nice find and the first we have seen.

Good ID Wayne.

bourg01
Posted July 27, 2011 - 4:09pm

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Hi Wayne, Cool watch find and great sleuthing but isn't the square for 1936 in this case. I doulbt very much it could be 1927 or 1946. Am I seeing 2 date code stamps by the serial #  one looks like the 1932 bent T ?

Not doubting the ID at all, but I'd call it for a 1936 model if it's a square.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted July 27, 2011 - 4:27pm

Shawn

Date Symbol is an X = 1933 all day. Error of omission. Nice catch! 

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William Smith
Posted December 27, 2013 - 10:29pm

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I doubt there were two uniquely different models named Envoy in 1933.  Wayne's supporting ads above are 1934.  Case SN suggests 1932, but his entered case SN is only 5 digits?  Don't we usually see 7 digits for case SN?  Fifth  posted a 1934 ad for "Ambassador"  in a watch currently under review, but we still have this possible transitional 1933/34 between the tonneau and rectangular Envoy, made more complex by the AMBASSADOR ad Fifth posted.  

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 27, 2013 - 11:34pm

To quote one very insightful member: 'if this were easy it wouldn't be any fun'.

true dat!

IWaynes' example is Dated 1932 and it appears the 'ENVOY' transition occurs in 1933, according to the ads ?

edit: The Movement is Dated 1933, although I see nothing to support.

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William Smith
Posted December 28, 2013 - 12:02am

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Yea ....and that five digit case SN....  This is still fun, even after a 8 month absence...