Bulova 1929 Lone Eagle

3/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
3
Manufacture Year: 
1929
Movement Symbol: 
Triangle
Movement Model: 
10AN
Movement Jewels: 
15
Movement Serial No.: 
no serial #
Case Serial No.: 
9472497
Case shape: 
Tonneau
Additional Information: 

Movement w/ both triangle and square date symbol, but model not released until 1929? Has Jan 11, 1927 patent date in case back.  15J USA  Adj

{updated to new DB format, case SN corrected, and images added 2012/03/22}

{updated From 1929 lone eagle to non-conforming to indicate movement swap w/ 1935/36 10AN based on comments from admin 2012/03/24} 

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Ellierose
Posted January 2, 2012 - 10:21am

i really the white on this redial...its so different than blacks and reds or orginal color dials you see...is also works very well with the case and the black enamel

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William Smith
Posted January 12, 2012 - 4:09am

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It's different...I don't mind it enough to swap to another dial or have it redone again...

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William Smith
Posted March 22, 2012 - 3:30pm

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Possible triple date code stamp of machine stamped triangle, hand stamped square-possibly stamped over another hand stamped symbol which I can't make out.  Could be anything, but it appears square was stamped over the top of what ever it is.

So 1926/1927 movement Year of watch updated to 1929 based on Case Serial Number

mybulova_admin
Posted March 23, 2012 - 8:37am

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Will, the movement is not from 26/27 it's from 35/36. It's stamped USA and has no serial number, which would indicate a non-original movement.

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William Smith
Posted March 24, 2012 - 7:48pm

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Thanks Admin  I don't think I've looked at this movement, watch or record too close for years....I see it's the 96th record in the watch database....and I really made a mess of things back then.  I'll update.

I just took photos of it, added them, and didn't even look at the photos....my bad.

Here's where that non-conforming comes in handy...but the darned thing sure looks like a lone eagle....sans movement replacement at least ten years after 1926....probably more recent than that.

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William Smith
Posted March 24, 2012 - 8:06pm

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So ideas on what forced entry to put in for manufacture date w/ this watch record. Can't decide what to put, since later mvent replacement.  Wouldn't make sense to have a manufacture date? 

This begs some other questions which we will see again and again w/ these types of watches.

Suggestions anyone/all?

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William Smith
Posted March 24, 2012 - 8:38pm

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Maybe this watch doesn't' belong in the database at all, short of education and a learning curve for how to address these things.  There are several examples of a "conforming and production correct" 1929 lone eagles in the database.  Thousands of combinations of "non conforming" are possible.  At very least, the star rating for these are moot?

It serves no purpose to have a three star non conforming 1928-1936 dated lone eagle. what ever that would be.   ...and for my own watches, I have never been in favor of changing back to period correct movement etc.  For me, it would be a recent marriage to period correct....not a reproduction, but a reconstruction not even using NOS parts.  Fine line for me personally, but I'm not saying if someone/anyone did this it would not be "as original".  I just stray away from these marriages.

If we are trying to look for movement serial number correlations to cases and series/ID's, adding another 1926 or 27 10AN is a problem from point of view of mvnt SN.  

mybulova_admin
Posted March 24, 2012 - 11:00pm

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Will it is what it is a Lone Eagle with a later movement.

I'd be more happy if it were IDd as a LE regardless of the movement, just as long as its noted in the description that the movement is a slightly later replacement.

plainsmen
Posted March 25, 2012 - 1:58pm

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Yeah... imo I think it would be better ID'd as the Lone Eagle... just stating it has a later movement.

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William Smith
Posted March 27, 2012 - 7:25pm

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OK  I'll change it back from Non-Conforming to Lone Eagle.  The comments will address differences.  Don't know what I should enter for the manufacturer year in the record.  Case SN is for model/case but it would make no sense to have this as 1936 Lone Eagle.  Just doesn't quite feel right.  Personally I won't be giving it more than one star because I believe a two or three star rating would be misleading for this example.

Suggestions?