Bulova 1927 Trojan

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Model ID rating explained.
3
Manufacture Year: 
1927
Movement Symbol: 
Square
Movement Model: 
10AN
Movement Jewels: 
15
Movement Serial No.: 
261973
Case Serial No.: 
unk
Case shape: 
Cushion
Case Manufacturer: 
American Standard Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

The BULOVA "TROJAN," Circa 1926- 1928. (+?) 15 Jewel, 10AN movement, Radium dial with Cathedral hands, Sub- seconds at 6 o' clock, WGF Case...  Images used with permission of Mr. Shawn Bourget...

 

Best :-)   Scott

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted March 13, 2011 - 7:45am

Trying to descerne the differences, if any between the 'CONQUEROR' and the 'TROJAN'.

Year of manufacture? case engraving? 15J vs 17J ? as both very similar.

Also there is a Black enameled version of this case dated 1929.

mybulova_admin
Posted March 13, 2011 - 10:41pm

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Scott what is the movement serial number of your watch?

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Wayne Hanley
Posted May 11, 2011 - 6:23pm

Admin

I read the serial number on the above movement as 261973.

This ad shows the black enamel cased Cyrano. It has the same engraving as the Tojan & Conqueror.

Where are you getting a 17 jewel movement for these watches? All of the ads indicate 15J!

These kinds of entries lead to confusion, questions and doubt>>>>>>(+?) 15 Jewel, 10AN movement

 

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted May 11, 2011 - 8:10pm

Wayne,

If You're referring to the original post the Jewel count was posed in question form - Reading the entire question:

"Trying to descerne the differences, if any between the 'CONQUEROR' and the 'TROJAN'.

Year of manufacture? case engraving? 15J vs 17J ? as both very similar."

Indicating that I am trying to grasp how the difference is told between the 'CONQUEROR' and the 'TROJAN' - if both use the 15 Jewel 10AN then You have answerd part of the question being No, the difference cannot be determined by Jewel count.

I'm aware of the 'CYRANO' as I am the one who initiated the a (after swiping it from Scott and editing)

No confusion but back to the question:

How do We tell the difference between the 'TROJAN' and the 'CONQUEROR'?

 

mybulova_admin
Posted May 11, 2011 - 9:33pm

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Time period...I thought I had answered this somewhere...I 'll have another look.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted May 11, 2011 - 9:59pm

Makes sense admin,

If the cut corner case named 'CONQUEROR' became the 'LONE EAGLE' in 1928 anything in this Circular case dated post 1928 would become the 'CONQUEROR' -  dated prior to 1928 would be the 'TROJAN'.

?

 

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Wayne Hanley
Posted May 12, 2011 - 12:43am

I have this sentence below in Aditional Information for my Conqueror:

"Known as the Trojan prior to the introduction of the Lone Eagle series I in 1927"

Prior to the intro of the Lone Eagle, the Conqueror was corner-cut. This should work for practicality sake, so that you don't have two different watches named Conqueror at the same time.

I was refering to this entry at the top by Scott "(+?) 15 Jewel"

 

 

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William Smith
Posted July 4, 2012 - 2:34pm

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So is this the Cryano?  Maybe the enamel just wore off. 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted September 24, 2012 - 1:35pm

1927 production Date makes it the 'TROJAN',  according to the mathematical reasoning posted above.

database ad Dated Dec.1926.   http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/1926-AD12-%28Dec...

'CONQUEROR' vs 'CYRANO' will be an issue.

 

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Reverend Rob
Posted September 24, 2012 - 1:54pm

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I have seen these and others with enamel polished off, as customers bring them in, asking if I can re-enamel them. Oftentimes it is the cutomer who has used a high speed tool to polish the case and has stripped it completely. This makes ID problematic.