Bulova 1924 Pocket Watch

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Manufacture Year: 
1924
Movement Symbol: 
Triangle
Movement Model: 
Thin H ?
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
1380
Case Serial No.: 
None
Case shape: 
Other
Crystal Details: 
None
Additional Information: 

    I bought this movement off of the net not knowing what it was other than what I could see of it (bad Pictures)and it looked worth taking a chance on since it was cheap. Turns out it's a Bulova.  It appears from the name stamping "Bulova W. Co." to be a 1924 or earlier model. However on the plate it also has the triangle denoting 1926 manufacture. The triangle has a 13 in it although it can't be seen in the pictures. There is also the word Swiss stamped in script on the plate.   It is a 17 jewel, 4 adjustment.  It has the words "Thin H "on the bridge and on the barrel bridge is the number 1380. I believe the works/bridges are nickle plated. There is nothing (that I could see) stamped underneath the balance cock but I haven't taken it all the way down yet.

     The dial is silver metal with painted Arabic numerals and on the back of the dial is the name L.Meroz-Hurst who I understand made dials for a lot of companies. Also on the dial plate is the number 549227. There is also a number 7  on the dial plate up towards the winding mechanism.  I don't know a whole lot about watches and everything I've been able to find has come directly from this site. I have been able to find no reference to the "Thin H' designation but I would would almost assume it is a model designation of some type. The balance is free and it appears that with a cleaning and oiling this watch will run. In the pictures you can see where some ambitous soul appears to have pried it from it's case, probably for gold recovery. Luckily they didn't hit anything vital .

    I appreciate any information anyone might have or any ideas of where else I can search. 

   

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Mindless
Posted April 26, 2013 - 12:40pm

I'm technologically challenged so i hope the pics all came through etc. thanks.

JP
Posted April 26, 2013 - 2:13pm

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Excellent photos. Is this a pocket watch movement?? 

mybulova_admin
Posted April 26, 2013 - 4:56pm

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What is the diameter of the movement?

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Reverend Rob
Posted April 26, 2013 - 6:55pm

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This is familiar, I have a few of these in non-Bulova examples. I haven't ID'ed them, but they are early trench watches. There was an increase in sales of this type after the first World War, so that by the 20's, they were becoming more common. 

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Mindless
Posted April 26, 2013 - 8:38pm

     I'm not sure is it came from a pocket watch or as R.Bob stated a trench watch. I thought it was a pocket watch movement but could easily be wrong.  A trench watch would be neat.

   The diameter of the  movement at the dial plate is 1 and 9/16 inches. I'm currently away from home so don't have calipers here and had to use my ex's tape measure.  apparently after converting it's approximately 39.687 mm.

mybulova_admin
Posted April 27, 2013 - 12:30am

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The 1928 17AT movement I have measures 36.6mm, so I'd say its definitely either a pocket watch or trench watch, although I don't think we have ever seen any evidence to suggest that Bulva produced trench watches. Some pocket watches may have been converted, but I've yet to come across one.

So...early pocket watch for me.

Technically this belongs in the forums and not here as it is not a complete watch. Or is that the case I see in the picture?

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted April 27, 2013 - 7:03am

Pocket Watch, does the micro adjustment on the regulator suggest "railroad grade' ?

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bobbee
Posted April 27, 2013 - 8:15am

The watch movement will date to pre-April 1923, when Bulova W co. became the Bulova Watch Company.
Maybe a Hudson Maxim originally, or even a Phantom, but the Maxims were advertised as "Guaranteed Railroad Accuracy".

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Mindless
Posted April 27, 2013 - 8:51am

     Admin- Sorry about the location.  Everything I saw said if you want to post a pic for identification click here. I did and this is where I ended up. Like I said kind of technologically challenged. I'll get it figured out eventually though with help.  No that is not the case. This came as a bare movement unfortunately.

     Fifthavenue-  I'm not really sure. It does appear to be a little better than many of them I've see with two screws locking it to the cock and another screw placed sideways to move the indicator. I could take a better pic and post if that would help.

     Bobbee-  I wondered about it being a Hudson Maxim . Information there also seems to be a little scarce. I think all the pictures of Phantoms I've seen had that name on them. Of course that's just what I've been able to find so far.

     I measured the thickness of the movement and it is approximately 5.5 mm thick.  Not sure if that means much but there it is.  Either way when I get back home I'm going to find someone to service it . This isn't one I want to practice/learn on and mess it up.  Then I'll find a case as close to historically correct as I can and it'll become the first Bulova in my tiny, struggling to grow, personal collection. Other than a ladies model wristwatch that's buried in a box somewhere.

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Reverend Rob
Posted April 27, 2013 - 9:19am

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Yeah, 39 mm is larger than what I was thinking. This is very interesting. That makes it just over 17''', and with the micro regulator and 17 jewels, was a good quality watch. 

Do you have the sautoir, that is, the setting lever spring? The plate that covers the keyless works? I can see the setting mechanism, and this would help to ID the calibre.