Bulova 1923 158

Submitted by FifthAvenueRes… on October 6, 2011 - 12:55pm
Manufacture Year
1923
Movement Model
10AA
Movement Jewels
16
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
1315025
Case shape
Other
Case color
White
Case Manufacturer
American Standard
Gender
Ladies
Watch Description

Hexagonal Case measures 29mm lug to lug x 24mm wide non inclusive of the Crown while using Calipers.

Sterling Silver Dial shows Black printed Arabic numerals and Bulova Signature. Hour and Minute Hands are Modern style.

14K American Standard Case.

Cabochon Sapphire Crown.

Fully Serviced 1/2011 by My Bulova Graduate Watchmaker Mr. Richard Hostetler Jr.

* Vintage display ad Dated 1922.

 

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1923 Bulova watch
1923 Bulova watch
1923 Bulova watch
mybulova_admin
Posted September 21, 2012 - 5:52pm

One possibility for having a later movement vs case is that the movement may have been replace at some point shortly after purchase. These things are delicate and don't bounce well. So a jeweler may have simply replaced the entire movement rather than spend the additional time repairing.

Just a thought.

155 is my call.

bobbee
Posted September 22, 2012 - 2:16pm

  Looks like the "158" model in the new 1922 ad! Great ad to add!

mybulova_admin
Posted September 23, 2012 - 7:05am

I've checked the engraving detail on the 158 and it is different from the subject watch.

William Smith
Posted September 23, 2012 - 4:48pm

The subject watch is 16 jewel. Minor, but the ad above (158) and the 155 ad both state 15 jewels.  We see a 16 jewel in this 154 example.  I'm starting a general forum post on American Standard Cases Revisited to get general discussion out of this specific watch record.
 

William Smith
Posted January 4, 2013 - 11:31am

The Bulova Watch Co. movement signature (w/ serial number) suggests this movement was produced after Bulova changed their company name from Bulova W Co some time in early 1924.  I think a safer production date would be 1923/1924 (unless we are assuming the movement has been swapped/replaced and we are somehow dating the case).  The first digit of case serial number in these early American Standard cases often begins with a 1, so this may not be the best way to date these watches to year vs giving a date range based on company name change and supporting ads. 
Are we giving American Standard cases w/ movement containing the older Bulova signature the range of 1919-1923?
 

bobbee
Posted January 4, 2013 - 4:43pm

Not a 155.

This 1923 ad has the 155, top right.

William Smith
Posted January 4, 2013 - 4:50pm

In reply to by bobbee

Yep it sure looks like the 155 is "round" in that ad.  I think the date is off too.

bobbee
Posted January 4, 2013 - 5:02pm

Agreed. The date is very difficult to pin down on these early ones, but 1921 may be too early, possibly 1922-23, but it's all speculation with them when they're this old and there is no documentation to verify much, even jewel counts and plating are subject to change from watch to watch sometimes!

William Smith
Posted January 4, 2013 - 5:21pm

We have pretty well nailed down a movement production of post 1923 for movements with the newer Bulova Watch Co. signature....so we may be assuming a movement swap for this one for the 1921 date, as the case SN relationship is not as strong in these 1919-1923 estimated cases...if it is even greater than random.  I think we will see many of these Am Std cases beginning with 1 for case SN during this period... (c1919-1923).

mybulova_admin
Posted January 31, 2013 - 7:26am

Update to 158 as I think I'm seeing a pattern in the model naming.

153 - 14K Gold Filled
154 - 14K Solid Gold, 18K Gold Filled

155 - 14K Gold Filled
156 - 14K Solid Gold, 18K Gold Filled

157 - 14K Gold Filled (maybe)
158 - 14K Solid Gold, (19K Gold Filled - maybe)

Bulova 1922 advert

Bulova 1922

Bulova 1922